I am extremely
grateful to have met kind knowledgeable and
helpful people as I prepared the text.
thanks to James, my friend, an American collector,
for his kindliness, his patience and his help
about technical information concerning engravings
done in Vietnam and his erudition about the
first engraved zippos during the French colonial
you are number one. It is nice to be important
but is more important to be nice.
to you Dan, for the long summer evenings spent
to listen to your Vietnam with your old faithful
buddies, and for all the cans of beer to recreate
wish to extend many thanks to my friends Miss
Beauty and Mr Luck from Saigon for the help
during the visit of the craftsman workshop in
thanks to my colleagues from Pittsburgh for
taking time to answer my request for information.
each of them, this web site would not have come
to the light.
errors in this page are my own. If you have
any correction, addition or photos, please contact
I would like to apologize for
my English, it was a lot of job to translate
and nobody could help me for this part. I had
to use a dictionary and some French was translated
word by word.
first release, Mike, in a friendly way, translated
my poor text into intelligible document. Thanks
for you Mike.
R. Munoz Paris le 8 Decembre 2004.
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My first Zippos were purchased while was a G.I.
in Vietnam and I bought them on the Vietnamese
market, and they probably got them from some
G.I. who got it at the PX.
I remember vividly having two Zippos engraved
while I was in service with the 101st Airborne
Division's 1st Brigade "The Nomads of Vietnam"
Consequently both were lost in the jungles of
Vietnam, never to have been found again
Believe me I did indeed look. Many G.I. had
their lighters "taken" while at brothels
The bar girls always wanted
them as souvenirs "You souvenir me G.I."
and they could not pronounce the word zippo
it came out "shippo"
I am eager
to see your web page.
Here is the information I gathered from my husband,
Andy, who was in the Marines from 1969 to 1973.
He was in Da Nang (Vietnam) in 1971 for about
13 months. He did not get his lighter until
he was out of Da Nang. He bought his Zippo in
1972 in Subic Bay, Philippines. He bought it
off a street vendor and had it engraved with
the following: "We die at the hands of
those who smile at war". He made that up.
He said he was angry about being there and tired
of all the human suffering. They used machines
to engrave the lighters but Andy does not know
what kind they used. He did not have the city,
date or Vietnam engraved on his lighter.
hope this information helps you. Good luck Cindy
Some answers to your questions about Zippo Lighters
& VietNam.The Zippo Lighter I purchased
in VietNam was bought in a PX (Post Exchange)
which is like a department store. It was very
rare for a Marine to get to a place like that.
I was there twice in a 6 month period. My lighter
was engraved by the same means that they engrave
lighters now. I just told them what I wanted
written on it. Another means was to buy it on
the Black Market in one of the large cities
of VietNam such as DaNang, where they were already
engraved. There were a number of sayings that
were very popular at that time, e.g. "If
you're not with the one you love, love the one
you're with"-----"Candy is dandy,
but sex doesn't rot your teeth"------"Napalm
sticks to kids"-------"Kill them all,
let God sort them out" etc.-------**My
lighter only ad my name on it. I hope some of
these answers were of help to you.
Sorry for the delay I am getting back to you,
I wanted to check a few things before.
The only true way to be confident, is with the
acid etched zippo's, these can't be reproduced,
although they are trying. The new style of fakes
are currently appearing on the web, they appear
to acid etched but with closer inspection they
are actually machined engraved, these can be
identified by very fine lines in the engraving
(there is two up at the moment - but because
of the quality of the photos you cant see the
engraving, unless you have seen them before),
and they tend to stuff up their dates on the
Note: TF-116 River Patrol Force was established
in Apr 66.
Hope this helps, all the best Ian.